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New episodes released the second Monday of each month.

Host – Max Goller

Co-Host – Pat LaMarche

Season 1 Episode 5

Guest Saint – Chris Kluwe

Chris Kluwe: A Secular Saint of Free Expression

In this engaging conversation, hosts Max Goller and Pat LaMarche discuss Chris Kluwe’s journey from NFL punter to outspoken advocate for LGBTQ rights, free expression, and community activism. He reflects on the impetus behind his book ‘Beautifully Unique Sparkle Ponies’, the intricacies of punting in football, and the challenges of speaking out against societal injustices. Kluwe also shares his recent activism regarding library censorship and the impact of propaganda in shaping public opinion. In this conversation, Chris discusses the importance of civil disobedience in the face of governmental oppression, sharing his personal experiences with protests and law enforcement. He emphasizes the need for community action and individual responsibility in advocating for marginalized groups, drawing parallels to historical civil rights movements. The dialogue highlights the significance of empathy and human connection in activism, urging listeners to recognize their power and privilege in affecting change.

Season 1 Episode 4

Guest Saint – Diane Nilan

Saintly Sidekick – Diana Bowman

Saintly Spark – Melissa Nason

Diane Nilan: A Secular Saint of Human Rights

In episode four of the Sacred Legion’s podcast, hosts Max Goller and Pat LaMarche have a conversation with Diane Nilan and her interview partner Diana Bowman exploring the profound impact of mentorship and advocacy in the realm of the unhoused. It highlights the inspiring journey of Diane Nilan and her writing collaborations with Diana Bowman, focusing on the importance of education, community support, and the McKinney-Vento Act in addressing the needs of unhoused families. The discussion emphasizes the power of personal stories, the role of school liaisons, and the necessity of volunteerism in creating meaningful change. You also hear from Diane’s saintly inspiration, Melissa Nason.

Season 1 Episode 3

Guest Saint – Saleem Holbrook

Saintly Sidekick – Anita Colon

Saleem Holbrook: A Secular Saint of Criminal Justice

In episode three of the Sacred Legion’s podcast, hosts Max Goller and Pat LaMarche engage with Saleem Holbrook and his sister Anita Colon to discuss the profound impact of incarceration. Saleem shares his harrowing journey from being a 16-year-old sentenced to life without parole to becoming an advocate for social justice. The conversation explores the systemic issues surrounding incarceration, the role of family in navigating these challenges, and the fight for reform in the legal system. Anita highlights the emotional toll on families and the importance of advocacy in raising awareness for systemic change in the justice system.

Season 1 Episode 2

Guest Saint – Diane Davis

Saintly Sidekick – Julie Dowd

Saintly Spark  – Karen Rickets

Diane Davis: A Secular Saint of Human Rights

In Sacred Legions second episode, hosts Max Goller and Pat LaMarche interview Diane Davis about the profound impact of September 11th on the small town of Gander, Newfoundland, where residents opened their homes to stranded airline passengers. Diane Davis shares her experiences as a volunteer during the crisis and her involvement in the creation of the musical ‘Come From Away.’ She also welcomes her interview partner, Julie Dowd, who shares the relationship that developed between the two after a flight cancellation back to Gander some years later. The discussion also highlights the ongoing efforts to support Syrian refugees in Gander, the importance of community support, and reflections on immigration and volunteerism. The guests emphasize the need for compassion and understanding in a world that often feels divided. You also hear from Diane’s saintly inspiration, Karen Rickets.

Season 1 Episode 1

Guest Saint – Christina Jarvis

Saintly Sidekick – Tom Annear

Saintly Spark – Marc Leeds

Christina Jarvis: A Secular Saint of Global Stewardship

In the inaugural episode of the Sacred Legions podcast, hosts Max Goller and Pat LaMarche introduce the concept of secular sainthood, inspired by Kurt Vonnegut’s philosophy. They discuss the importance of recognizing individuals who contribute positively to society, particularly in the realms of environmentalism and community engagement. Guest Christina Jarvis shares her journey as a Vonnegut scholar and environmental advocate, emphasizing the interconnectedness of art, activism, and personal responsibility. Her husband, Tom Annear, contributes to the global stewardship discussion. The conversation highlights the role of community in fostering change and the need for a network of secular saints to inspire and support one another in their efforts to create a better world. You also hear from Christina’s saintly inspiration, Vonnegut scholar Marc Leeds.

Season 1 Promo

Introduction to Sacred Legions

Welcome to Sacred Legions, a term coined by author Kurt Vonnegut for people performing decently in an indecent world. We will introduce you to hosts Max Goller and Pat LaMarche as they describe their mission to interview community pillars of volunteerism and self-care. You’ll also find resources on our website, sacredlegions.org, empowering you to join the ranks of the Sacred Legions. Secular Sainthood. Good for others. Good for your self!